More on Bowling Lodge and a cost comparison with building a block of Ripley Ville dwellings

More information on who built Bowling Lodge in 1836, how much they were paid, other conditions and how long it took is compared with Cordingley and Peel’s contract for building a block of Ripley Ville Working Men’s Dwellings for H W Ripley in 1867.

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Building Bowling Lodge in 1836 and a block of Working Mens Dwellings in Ripley Ville in 1867

This post expands on information in three previous posts:-

Planning Application Numbers : All the buildings of Ripley Ville

The plans for Victorian Ripley Ville 1866 – 1881

1836 : H W Ripley as SWCI, the Moulsons, their mark and a [Master] Carpenter and Joiner.

In its first part the post adds:-

  • the names of the plumber, glazier and slater to the masons and the carpenter & joiner contracting to build Bowling Lodge for H W Ripley in 1836,
  • the amount agreed for their payment
  • some conditions to the contracts
  • some stages in the work, completion dates and forfeits

The payments agreed give a probable total for the building costs of the Dwelling House, Coach-house and Stables that was being built, to drawings by the architect Walker Rawsthorne, for H W Ripley’s parents, Edward and Hannah Ripley (nee Murgatroyd). (1)

In the second part of the post, this information is compared with what we know about a single contract for building a block of Working Mens Dwellings in the industrial model village of Ripley Ville some thirty years later.

The third part speculates on the price H W Ripley was paying for a working man’s dwelling to be built in the industrial model village of Ripley Ville.

Bowling Lodge

Contractors and Price for Work

The earlier post revealed that Moulsons, a firm based in West Bowling or little Bowling as it had been called, were contracted to do the Masons work for Bowling Lodge and that John Hargrave, was the contracting Carpenter & Joiner. Hargrave would have made the massive water cistern associated with the water-closet installed in Bowling Lodge, which features in the previous post on Bowling Lodge. The Moulsons work as masons included the laying of the drains. The full list of contractors and the price agreed for their part in the contract are shown in the table below. The space for the signature of the contractor for the plastering is empty in the section of the eighteen-page Specification concerning their work – so we don’t know their name – but the price is given.

Table : Contractors & Price for building Bowling Lodge 1836

Table Bowling Lodge building contractors and price

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lawful english money, Completion and forfeits

In the Specification the prices for each part of the build appear in long-hand and in the case of the masons and carpenter & joiner either a completion date or completion period is given for their part of the build. For the reassurance of the contractors, the terms of the contracts, confirm that their payment will be in ‘lawful english money’.  For Moulsons the work target is to the point where the joiners can start to ‘raise the roof” and has to be ‘so far completed by the first day of June next’ (June 1836). Beyond that, they will forfeit £10 per week.

The way work was staggered in the build is reflected in the Specification by the date on which the contracts are signed, so Joseph Hargrave did not sign his part of the contact until the ‘twenty fifth day of February’. The target for completion of his work is ‘three months after the roof is raised’. He is to forfeit £5 per week of delay, if there are any.

This would suggest a completion date for the whole build in October 1836, possibly later. The total cost would be in the region of £1,500 ‘lawful english money, or £1,533 if everything went to plan. There would then be further expense and work to do to make Bowling Lodge habitable and a suitable home for Edward Ripley, Hannah and their household.(2)

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Cordingley and Peel ‘building block’

It is remarkable that, so far, little is known about the building of the Working Mens Dwellings of what became Ripley Ville, Bradford’s only industrial model village.

Plans

Compared to the detail on how Bowling Lodge was to be built during 1836 and by whom, when we come to 1867 and Ripley Ville, we have what we might call ‘outline’ plans by the architects and, as yet, no contracts. The architects’ plans includes a block plan for 254 houses and more details for two of the three types of houses that were eventually built.(3)

For these two types of dwellings there are floor plans for each floor, sectional drawings & a ‘New Buildings – Form of Notice …’, intended to show how the build would conform with local building bye-laws.(4)

Contracts to let

Through research done for ‘When was Ripleyville built’ (Walker R L 2008), we know the sequence for when the four sets of contracts for different quantities of houses were to be let. While, it is probable that the sub-set of contracts to let, numbered 1 to 13, refer to the thirteen blocks of houses eventually built, the sequence in which they were built remains uncertain.(5)

Since the sequence is uncertain completion dates can, as yet, only be a speculation.

A Contractor/Builder

More recent research, published in a post on this web-site last month, revealed for the first time that Cordingley and Peel might be the contractors for the building of a block of the Ripley Ville houses.(6)

And that is about it!

Unknowns

If it is proven that Cordingley & Peel were the builders, we still don’t know which block or type of house Cordingley and Peel were building, nor the quantity of houses. The date of their application for water places it in the period just before the 4th set of contracts were advertised in the Bradford Observer and 4 months after the 3rd set was. We don’t know, however, which houses were built in each set of contacts or individual contracts.

As I wrote in that earlier post;

Using, combining and giving priority to different factors (e.g. house type) or source materials (e.g Bradford Observer ‘Contracts to let’), suggests different sequences for when the blocks of housing were built.

Speculations

It is just possible that Cordingley and Peel were building a block of as few as 7 or as many as 19 of the Working-Mens Dwellings. They could have been building a block of 10, 12, 13, 14 or 18 houses (see quantities of houses per block in map below right). (7)

Cost per house

If we speculate that they were building one of the longer terraced rows then a cost per house can be calculated.

As shown by use of both maps below, a house in a longer row of 19 houses could only have been a Type B house. (8)

If the Cordingley & Peel block was one of these four, they would have been costing H W Ripley just over £126 each.

A row of 18 houses – which could be either Type A or Type C – would have been just over £133 each for Cordingley & Peel’s work. (9)

Maps showing Type of houses and Quantities of houses in Block

Type and Quantity houses in Blocks using three colours

Quality of build

When advertising the contracts to let, Andrews Son & Pepper stated that the lowest bid would not necessarily be accepted. While also allowing them to choose a contractor known to them and trusted, this could be an indication of a requirement for both compliance and quality of build.

That 4 years later Cordingley & Peel were chosen as the Contractors for the Anglican Church of St Bartholomew suggests their successful completion of the housing contract and that they had the capability to take on a more architecturally demanding build.

 

Notes

(1)       The contract and Specification was agreed by H W Ripley.

(2)       Henry William Ripley and his wife Susan were at this time involved in a move to Holme House in Lightcliffe. It is not clear how far this had progressed.

(3)       The increased number of houses were to be accommodated by building to the the other (western) side of Ripley Terrace. The location of the Type A houses, eventually built on Vere Street, would also have been different.

(4)       Deposited Plan No 4262. The plans are available through the Bradford branch of West Yorkshire archives.

(5)        see previous post

(6)       It is not clear why Cordingley & Peel made the application for supply of water from the Bradford Corporation Water Works when Ripleys had their own supply. No other such application appears to have been recorded.

(7)       I am here assuming that both the intention to build Type C houses and for space to be reserved for the Schools building had been made.

(8)      I have used ‘A’ and ‘B’ for the type of house as this is used by the architects in their original plans. The third type of house therefor becomes ‘Type C’. These were built in the blocks 2-36 Saville Street and 38-62 Saville Street and are the ones for which no original plan has been found.

(9)     Cordingley and Peel were not always ‘all-trades’ contractors. They appear to have gravitated towards plastering and speciality flooring work later in the 19th century. Drains, which might be a Masons’ work, may have already been laid or at least some part of them.

published 2016/02/09

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100 Up : rediscovering Ripleyville; Heritage Matters for Ripley Road site

rediscovering Ripleyville’s 100th post : a Heritage Matters update about Bradford Council’s Planning Policy proposal for land on Ripley Road. Your chance to help shape the council’s policy for land near to where the northern site of Bradford’s only industrial village once stood!

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Heritage Matters Update

Ripley Road Planning Allocation

Just over a week ago (2016/01/08) I happened across a planning document referring to Ripley Road in West Bowling and the land across from the Edward Ripley & Son’s Laboratory building which dates from 1916 (see photos below).

Laboratory Building Ripley Road southern facade

Laboratory Building Ripley Road

Date plaque Laboratory building

Date plaque Laboratory building

The Allocation Site in 1882

The map below shows that in 1882 the land would have included;

  • Ripleys’ ‘New Shed’ (NS),
  • subsiding pits (SP) for Bowling Dyeworks
  • and a reservoir (Res).

The eastern side of Ripley Road was used for allotments’ with the lower block of Ripley Terrace (Nos 67-85), which featured in a recent post, and the Ripley Ville schools building (Sch) beyond (see photograph).

Ripley Terrace & Schools building c. 1950

Ripley Terrace & Schools building c 1950s

Wider Setting of Site in 1882

The map shows the features above and the allocation site’s wider setting including Bowling Dyeworks and the rest of the northern site of the industrial model village of Ripley Ville.

Super-imposed on this in red are the outline of the site in the proposed allocation (WM2) and the words ‘Registered Historic Park’ used in the planning document to denote Bowling Park.

Planning Policy submission supporting map Ripley Road WM2 site

Site Allocation : Waste Disposal/Management Purposes

There is a proposal that the whole of this site of 2.35 hectares be considered for waste disposal/management purposes.

The link to the pdf of the planning document, which is on Bradford Council’s site is:-

https://www.bradford.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/FA15AC6D-2FF9-47C4-B2C9-EAF65DFEF001/0/WasteManagementDPDPublicationDraft.pdf

You need to scroll down to pages 28 & 29 for the part relating to Ripley Road.

Mitigation Requirements

The grounds for the policy and allocation appear sound. The key point about the document are the conditions under which the policy and allocation might be applied i.e when an application to develop the site comes in. On this, the document includes the following paragraph under ‘Mitigation Requirements’ ;

Development proposals will need to ensure the significance (including the setting) of the Registered Historic Park to the south-east of the area is not harmed. This will need to be demonstrated through robust analysis in the heritage statement submitted with the planning application.

Awareness Raising

I was at a public consultation meeting when I was shown the document. I did at that time tell the planners attending about Ripleyville. They did not seem to know of its previous existence. It seems to me that there is an opportunity to make the planners aware of the proximity of this part of Ripley Road to;

  • the northern site of Ripley Ville, Bradford’s only industrial model village
  • the pedestrian paths that made and still offer links to what was the Bowling Dyework’s site and Ripley Ville

That mitigation requirement can apply to the Registered Historic Park (Bowling Park) ought to mean that mitigation requirements could be applied to the Ripleyville/Bowling Dyework’s sites. They are of equal significance. Ripley Ville was completed, with the removal and rebuilding of the Alms houses to New Cross Street on the village’s southern site, a year after Bowling Park was officially opened. They date from the same period.

row of Victorian almshouses

Ripley Ville Alms houses on New Cross St, West Bowling

Recent research, summarised in an earlier post which corrects the errors on Wikipedia, makes clear the local and national significance of the Ripley Ville Working Mens Dwellings with their water-closets in the basements.

Grants or Gains

Another possibility is that some kind of planning gain/grant application (e.g. from Landfill Tax) could be looked for. Heritage signage, minor works, path clearance and reinstatement and the planting of trees, shrubs could be used to enhance the setting of what remains of the Victorian industrial landscape and the northern site of the village after demolition and improve access routes to these.

Action

Ripleyville is a crucial but forgotten part of Bradford’s Victorian Heritage. Make your voice heard in the efforts to promote it to its rightful place in the city’s Victorian history and its heritage.

Here’s some things you can do:-

  • Tell people about this article. Copy and send them the link to this 100 Up page : Heritage Matters page; http://wp.me/p2qxEI-2hc
  • Look at the planning document and in your response make sure the planners know about Ripley Ville and take it into account in future planning decisions.
  • Copy & paste the 100 Up : Heritage Matters page link http://wp.me/p2qxEI-2hc into your comments to the planners.

Responses to the planning policy document can be made on-line or by other means. These are identified in page 3 of the document. Here’s the link again.

https://www.bradford.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/FA15AC6D-2FF9-47C4-B2C9-EAF65DFEF001/0/WasteManagementDPDPublicationDraft.pdf

The relevant paragraphs, including the e-mail address for comments on page three, are:-

How to comment
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Comments are invited using the online Comment Form or the paper comment
forms available upon request. While comments not using the form will be accepted
those making comments are encouraged to use the form to assist both the Council
in processing representations but also any Inspectors consideration of comments.
Please note that representations cannot be treated as confidential and will be made
available on the council’s website.
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The Council is keen to promote the submission of comments electronically and
would encourage anyone with appropriate facilities, such as email, to make their
responses in this way. Comments should be returned to the Council by using:
Email:
planning.policy@bradford.gov.uk
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Where it is not possible to comment using electronic means, representations can
be sent via mail to:
Bradford District Local Plan
City of Bradford MDC
Development Plans Team
2nd Floor (South) Jacobs Well
Manchester Road
Bradford BD1 5RW
Hand Delivered
to the following planning office
(Mon – Thurs 9am to 5pm, Fri 9am to 4.30pm):
Jacobs Well
Ground floor reception
Manchester Road
Bradford BD1 5RW
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Map corrected 12 20 on same day

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Planning Application Numbers : All the buildings of Ripley Ville

Application numbers for all the buildings of Victorian Ripley Ville (1866-1881) revealed on ‘rediscovering Ripleyville’ for the first time. This post lists the planning application numbers for all of the buildings of the Victorian industrial model village of Ripley Ville and their archive location.

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Planning Applications Numbers : All the buildings of Ripley Ville

The plans submitted to the Borough of Bradford’s council for all the buildings erected between 1866 and 1881 on the northern and southern site of the industrial model village of Ripley Ville are held on micro-fiche at the Bradford Branch of West Yorkshire Archives.

The plans are those submitted to support the planning applications for each building or set of buildings. They were considered for approval by the Building & Improvement Committee of the council. The archive contains the deposited plans for 5 builds:-

  • the Working-Mens Dwellings
  • the Schools building and Schoolmaster’s house
  • the church of St Bartholomew
  • St Bartholomew’s Vicarage
  • the Alms houses

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The plans for Victorian Ripley Ville 1866 – 1881

The architects’ plans for the buildings of Victorian Ripley Ville were submitted to Bradford Borough Council between 1866 and 1881. This post uses one of the plans for the schools and a key passage in ‘When was Ripleyville built?’ to look at the sequence in which the village’s ‘Working-Mens Dwellings’ may have been built and by whom. It comments on the significance for rediscovering Ripleyville in having had access to all the architects’ plans 8 years ago, in having full copies now and on the ‘missing’ plans for St Bartholomew’s vicarage.

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The Plans for Victorian Ripley Ville 1866-1881

My previous post was about half-an-hour at the end of a day at the local archives. It focussed on the water-closet and cistern of Bowling Lodge. Earlier in the same day, I had been getting together 21 x A4 pages of information and drawings. These were copied and printed from microfiches. They were of all, yes ALL, of the original planning applications for the buildings built in Victorian Ripley Ville between 1866 and 1881, including the one for St Bartholomew’s Vicarage – of which more at the end of the post.

I had re-found and re-viewed all the plans before I did the 150th Anniversary post on Ripley Ville on November 15th last year (2015). I made quite extensive notes about each from the microfiches at that time but had found these weren’t comprehensive enough. This time I had scanned and printed them – much easier to double-check what you think you are seeing, notice more of the detail, make calculations, measurements, etc – and you do not need to rely on memory.

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1836 : H W Ripley as SWCI, the Moulsons, their mark and a [Master] Carpenter and Joiner.

This post is about a very early Victorian water-closet. It establishes the time over which the Ripley’s were putting water-closets into their properties by going back to 1836 to look at Bowling Lodge. This was the home of Edward and Hannah Ripley, parents of Henry William Ripley, who was the main sponsor for the Victorian industrial model village of Ripley Ville. It adds just a little to what we know about the Moulsons who built much of Ripleys Mills, gives the specification for the enclosure of the water-closet and the cistern to be made in Bowling Lodge and identifies who is trusted with its making.

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Another Day at the Archives

Bowling Lodge

Another day at the archives. Right at the end I just had time to look at the ‘Specification for a Dwelling House’ (NB3700901) that became Bowling Lodge; the home of Edward and Hannah Ripley. The client for the work is their son, the twenty-two year old Henry William Ripley. The architect responsible for drawing up the specification was Walker Rawstorne. George Sheeran describes him ((1990 : 72) as most active in Bradford between 1830 and 1850 and, interestingly, as using, ‘Neo-classical styles for domestic architecture.’

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Wikipedia on Victorian Ripley Ville : wrong! wrong! wrong!

The account on Wikipedia is wrong on a number of crucial points about the worker’s housing built between 1866 and 1868 in the Victorian industrial model village of Ripley Ville,  These relate to whether water-closets were installed in each of the 196 Working -mens Dwellings”, on the village’s northern site in Bowling, south Bradford. The errors are identified in this post and a better version of events laid out. The post starts with a RVr news update. It ends by emphasising how regrettable the demolition of the village’s northern site is, in heritage terms.

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News Update

Work on the new ‘Ripley Ville rediscovered’ (RVr) web-sites on the Victorian industrial model village of Ripley Ville is behind schedule.

Time has been given over instead to exploring several long trails in archival material about the village’s Victorian beginnings. The searches have focused on the water-closets that are understood to have been built in the basements (cellars) of the 196 Workmens Dwellings of the village.

The water-closet controversy : its importance

If water-closets were installed this would make the houses, in their sanitary status and arrangements, the most advanced then built for the working classes. When taken together with the number installed, this would significantly enhance the importance of Ripley Ville as an industrial model village and of ‘Messrs Ripleys scheme…’ for workers housing.

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Ripley Ville : 150th Anniversary today

Bradford’s only industrial model village, Ripley Ville, has the 150th anniversary of its founding today, 15th November 2015. The village was unique : each and every one of its 196 workman’s dwellings, built between 1866 and 1867, had a water-closet in its basement.

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150th Anniversary

Today is the 150th anniversary of the event in 1865 in south Bradford that promoted ‘Messrs Ripleys scheme for building a number of Working-Mens Dwellings’. The event was a public meeting that took place in Edward Ripley & Son’s Patent Melange Works on Spring Mill Street, west Bowling on the 15th November 1865. At it, a prospectus was made available to those attending and the planned scheme for up to 300 dwellings of three types was explained. From the 20th of November 1865 draft plans of the dwellings were available ‘between Six and Eight O clock’ until ‘Friday 1st December’. In this case ‘Tickets of admission [were] to be had of Messrs Ripley and at the Melange Works’.

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Victorian Ripley Ville : Getting the Best & Doing it Right

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A previous post on this blog stated that the research needed in rediscovering Ripley Ville was not ‘in any way complete [nor is] what is out there on the internet or in print … adequate to telling the story of Victorian Ripley Ville.’

The proposed new web-sites; Ripleyville.co.uk and Ripleyville.org.uk, will be aiming to improve what this project offers about the old Borough of Bradford’s only industrial model village. This post develops the points about

  • research
  • content now on offer on the internet

It deals in particular with content available about Ripleyville on Wikipedia in comparison with the blog posts and pages on this rediscovering Ripleyville (rRV) web-site. The post’s focus is on the content on the Wikipedia site about Ripleyville’s Working Mens houses and on this rRV site and the Wikipedia site about the village’s original Victorian Vicarage. Issues of transparency and best practice in arriving at the Ripleyville story are raised on both topics.  The post’s overall message is that for Victorian Ripley Ville this web-site leads, while Wikipedia follows.

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Ripples build and other News

This is a very short post giving news of;

  • an upcoming Textile conference,
  • two posts that have had their passwords removed
  • and the connection between pain, pus, poison and aniline dyes

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New pebbles in the Ripley Ville pond. Previous ripples felt now.

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This post looks to the future for this WordPress hosted rediscovering Ripleyville web-site, blog posts and the rediscovering Ripleyville project. It reveals a plan to gradually move most of its content. This will be split between TWO NEW Ripleyville web-sites. It also notes two events that suggest small changes may be occurring in how Bradford’s Victorian Heritage offer is made. These give encouragement for future activities around rediscovering Ripleyville.

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